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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
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 Posted - 26.10.2006 : 11:38:43
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That is the reason why I am trying to improve basic form everyday.
Once you get standard basic form (How you stand, how you shoot, how to grip, how to use force..)
, you can follow the practices or technique the book showing you. Otherwise you just invent wheel by myself, looking for improvement in your darkness, not learning from others.
My friend spend about 2 yr. about 4-5 hr a day to play snooker but no improvement at all since they try to invent the wheel by themselves. The root of problem is their basic form cannot support those technique. |
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 26.10.2006 : 12:36:30
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In these serveral days(2006.Oct.24 - Oct.26) , I almost come to club house for practices everyday. I notice the level of snooker is much lower than China.
It is reasonable the mainland snooker player spend 3 or 4 hour in snooker everyday. 1 hour for practising in their own everyday.And also someone show them howto practices, pinpoint their weakest point so that they improve so fast.
Age range : 16 - 60 yrs. old |
Edited by - DicksonCheng on 26.10.2006 12:39:15 |
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FireGod
中校級會員
USA
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Posted - 26.10.2006 : 14:16:10
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quote:In these serveral days(2006.Oct.24 - Oct.26) , I almost come to club house for practices everyday. I notice the level of snooker is much lower than China.
It is reasonable the mainland snooker player spend 3 or 4 hour in snooker everyday. 1 hour for practising in their own everyday.And also someone show them howto practices, pinpoint their weakest point so that they improve so fast.
Age range : 16 - 60 yrs. old
Originally posted by DicksonCheng
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係呀...我都覺得我地技術水平比較差...
但係香港人,個個忙到爬響樹...
有時間打波已經好難得,有得打就梗係想同朋友開心下....好難話日日練既....
呢個係社會環境問題,相信好難改變....
屎波爛砌的呀火.... |
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 26.10.2006 : 14:49:49
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I feel also.
Most of them likes to snooker gambling (RMB$30 - $50) for each game among friends, outsiders RMB$200 - 3000, at least a set - 5 game or 8 game, owner snooker house RMB$2000 - $5000 a game at least 3 game.
So they are very serious snooker player but you do not gamble with them.They seldom display their real capability to you. Most of time they pretend to be dummy and lose in friendship game by intention. |
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 26.10.2006 : 14:56:26
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/* Snooker gambling in mainland China */
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Price list
Friendship : RMB$30 - $50 each game
Outsiders : RMB$200 - 3000, at least a set - 5 game or 8 game,
Owner snooker house : RMB$2000 - $5000 a game at least 3 game.
Challange between snooker house : RMB$10,000 each game
Unit : each game
Usually, mainland snooker 20 points in one break. If you are not up to that level, don't gamble with them. |
Edited by - DicksonCheng on 26.10.2006 15:00:05 |
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cue in hand
少校級會員
Hong Kong
Posts 536 |
Posted - 26.10.2006 : 19:26:12
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Dickson cheng
很多人都神化貴cue的威力!
您有乜意見?
我認為價值高未必可以保証係好cue,平價cue也有可能搵到好cue!!
總之好難用價值定論,只可以話較高檔次的cue,其質量較穩定!
希望您比比意見!
技驚四座，是我夢想))))) |
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KDR
初哥級
Posts 43 |
Posted - 26.10.2006 : 20:13:29
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個人認為付擔唔起ｏ既話，千零二千蚊支都ｏｋ啦，一分錢一分貨，要求唔可以太高囉．但係俾得起錢ｏ既話，貴ｃｕｅ真係一分錢一分貨，支木都靚ｄ先啦．
好似陳國明咁，佢以前都係打泰ｃｕｅ，但可能因為佢哋ｄ高手中隻白波中得應啦，支ｃｕｅ兩年之內斷過幾次銅咀，最後都要轉打ｕｌｔｉｍａｔｅ，馮國威支泰ｃｕｅ都好似話斷過銅咀，想換ｃｕｅ．平ｃｕｅ好唔好真係心中有數囉，你話平時要黎玩下波，冇乜要求，技術又唔係好好ｏ既，咁就梗係冇所謂啦！呢個亦都係亨特利支ｃｕｅ斷咗，同埋奧蘇利雲要換新ｃｕｅ，都要搵ｐａｒｒｉｓ造支ｕｌｔｉｍａｔｅ既原因卦
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cue in hand
少校級會員
Hong Kong
Posts 536 |
Posted - 26.10.2006 : 21:46:13
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cue 既野真係好見人見智
正如Jimmy white 本masterclass都講，價錢不能保証係一支魔術棒
技驚四座，是我夢想))))) |
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yau1201
上校級會員
Argentina
Posts 2384 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 00:04:23
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你好DicksonCheng...hope有機會向你學習一下!!
【快槍手】
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 01:38:19
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/* My first Cue*/
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My teacher assign first exercise is distance long straight shoot. The requirement is 90% accuracy. So my friend - cue expert sell me 21.5 oz. It help me to distance long straight.
Distance straight shoot help us to correct posture (form)
1. eliminate any deviation
2. eliminate any sides on cue ball
3. lock upper arm
4. lock standing form
This is how I spend first 3 month in snooker - i.e I start learning from 2006.Feb. It means 2006.Feb to 2006.May just distance straight shoot 2 hour a day boring exercise. I take snooker to keep reducing my body weight.
Steve Davis alway check his straight shoot before attending the final of champion and do many straight shoot check exercise. This make him has perfect straight shoot - get accurate long shoot to win the match.
Second Lesson : basic cue method
1. Follow shoot (higher)
2. Medium shoot
3. Lower shoot
4. Pull back shoot
In "Pull back shoot", the requirement is pulling back 2M from target ball. I spend almost 4 weeks but cannot get it done. The power "Pull Back Shoot" depends on
1. tips friction
2. tips shape
3. cue weight
4. accerlerate distance between tips and cue
5. penetration of target ball
6. hitting point of cue ball
7. bridge
8. how you grip the cue
For this exercise, I buy another cue, try different tips (Omin, Burnswick, Blue Diamond), different tips shape. At last, I find out cue is not key factor but tips friction, tip shape is "damn" important for power "Pull Back" shoot.
My friend - cue expert tells me:
tips : give friction to cue ball
cue : give elastic force to cue ball
When I see Mr. Ding playing, he just apply slight force to cue ball but the cue ball pull back, and then bounce the cushion, head toward "black ball" standard position. This tell me "Cue" is not so important for this shoot. "Slight force" don't give cue ball strong elastic force but hitting point, tips plays crucial part in this brilliant shoot.
My friend bought "Jimmy White limited version cue" about HK$1500 in 1986 and sell it to me in 2006.This cue has good elastic force so that I just apply slight force to pull back cue ball in 1M |
Edited by - DicksonCheng on 27.10.2006 01:56:37 |
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 01:39:51
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It is welcomed to learn snooker from each other. |
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 01:44:27
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For daily practices, I just use very cheap , cheap cue under HK$200 but it is same weight as my Jimmy White cue. It is OK for me.
I care about
1. tips friction
2. tips shape
3. basic form
more than cue. |
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JK47
隊長級會員
Brazil
Posts 5691 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 01:55:59
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To Dickson,
What is your opinions on the choice of cue?
According to the way of practice, cue is not important at all.
Is it OK to do so?
"No side is better than with side"  |
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JK47
隊長級會員
Brazil
Posts 5691 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 01:59:27
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Support. I try that and it works ah.
I used to have a VERY LOW success rate on middle pocket. Now I have been improved. Thanks Dickson.
quote:/* Aimming point of middle pocket */
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Most member have a aiming problem of middle pocket, or low success rate because they don't know aimming point.
Aim point of middle pocket :
Spot that connect centre of cue ball to far side of middle pocket
Originally posted by DicksonCheng
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"No side is better than with side" |
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JK47
隊長級會員
Brazil
Posts 5691 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 02:00:27
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That's why we are still learning LOR......
quote:snooker真係博大精深！！！！！！！！
技驚四座，是我夢想)))))
Originally posted by cue in hand
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"No side is better than with side" |
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 09:08:24
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/* Tip shape and shoot */
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To JK47
Your cue is good for push and follow, not for "Pull back shoot".
Since tips head is flat, it means you cannot apply enough friction to cue ball. It makes your cue ball cannot pull back even you apply "Pull back".
The fact is that cue ball is sphere, so good tip head is
1. flat at the top (for push and follow)
2. curve at the edge (for pull back)
As you want "Pull back shoot", press palm downward a bit to make curve surface of tip heads having large contact surface to cue ball so that tip can apply friction to cue ball, cue ball can be pulled back
quote:To Dickson,
What is your opinions on the choice of cue?
According to the way of practice, cue is not important at all.
Is it OK to do so?
"No side is better than with side"
Originally posted by JK47
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 09:12:49
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To JK47
Last night (2006.Oct.26) , you have about 45 points lead in the match. It is so good.
If you can lock upper arm and knows some basic cue ball placing technique, you will get more than that.
quote:Support. I try that and it works ah.
I used to have a VERY LOW success rate on middle pocket. Now I have been improved. Thanks Dickson.
quote:/* Aimming point of middle pocket */
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Most member have a aiming problem of middle pocket, or low success rate because they don't know aimming point.
Aim point of middle pocket :
Spot that connect centre of cue ball to far side of middle pocket
Originally posted by DicksonCheng
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"No side is better than with side"
Originally posted by JK47
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 09:14:43
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You can dicuss with me on the club house
quote:quote:/* Common Practices Problem */
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Most of snooker player cannot understand the technique described in the book.So they just some common practices. But those practices may not fit their need. In last, they don't improve much even after they practices a lot and long time.
Originally posted by DicksonCheng
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請問:
點知邊種練習方法合適自己?????
技驚四座，是我夢想)))))
Originally posted by cue in hand
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 09:16:21
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We just learn from each other, I have so many thing don't understand and konws.
quote:你好DicksonCheng...hope有機會向你學習一下!!
【快槍手】
Originally posted by yau1201
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DicksonCheng
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 266 |
Posted - 27.10.2006 : 09:19:08
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Recently, I go to club house every night
quote:when and where will you be available? i am interested to hear from you.
舊的事物在回憶中，永遠是最好的！韋德〉亨特利〉奧蘇利雲
Originally posted by OMike
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台球技巧雜談-經驗及理論
