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Kevi
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Posted - 10.09.2005 :  12:47:47  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageKevi  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressKevi Send Kevi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
完來係咁...唔該哂

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B.Hall
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Posted - 10.09.2005 :  18:13:38  Show Profile Send B.Hall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SnookerFreak

當時球証話有freeball...但Barry(打波球手)自己好honest咁話冇...

田中



所以話snooker係紳士遊戲。

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Kevi
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Posted - 10.09.2005 :  18:40:58  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageKevi  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressKevi Send Kevi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by B.Hall

quote:
Originally posted by SnookerFreak

當時球証話有freeball...但Barry(打波球手)自己好honest咁話冇...

田中



所以話snooker係紳士遊戲。

B仔老豆


totally agree
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lksnooker
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Posted - 10.09.2005 :  22:37:50  Show Profile  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagelksnooker Send lksnooker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by B.Hall


BHall不過佢隻白波好似有少少「責」界,咁就會俾球證foul。



我圖中白波有冇責界或出界就無需要討論啦, 但係兩點要留意就係藍波係 touch 住黃波又責界, 黃波在點, 但係我第二張圖都可以睇到, 至少仲有 1/4 隻波0既空位, 就算放入界多0的都唔會有 freeball...

quote:
Originally posted by Dickson


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講得岩, 就如球例所提及到0既: If one or more balls on can be struck at both extreme edges free of obstruction by any ball not on, the cue-ball is not snookered.

quote:

Originally posted by AllenW


So in this case, if we can find a place in the D area to place the white ball, so that the white ball is touching the yellow ball but not blue ball, then there should be no free ball.


呢一個講法都可以話好正確, 更好就係話如果你可以搵到一個位, 好近好近個黃波, 但係又岩岩 not-touching, 而唔係 touching 其它 not-on 0既波, 就一定冇 freeball, 所以絶對可以一睇圖就知道 『冇 freeball』, 亦一定唔係紙上談兵!

(唔知 touching 隻波算唔算 freeball? 如果唔算, 就 AllenW 個講法就一定最正確啦!!!)

quote:

Originally posted by Kevi


其實我都同意B.Hall兄既唸法,如果係我,我都會用返隻黃波黎set 波。


就如之前講過, 都會好睇0個時分數0既情況, 但如果真係有 freeball, "我" 就一定唔會想破壞下次 "會再有 freeball" 0既機會, 但假如我真係想破壞一個咁好0既局面, "我" 絶對會考慮先入啡波, 再 set 黃波囉! 我唔知你0地呢???

藍波封0佐半邊黃波, 如果"掂" 啡波右面就一定迫球手向上或向下打, 而更要打黃波右面薄邊, 打唔中差唔多一定會再 freeball, 細力打中就比人再 set, 可能 set 得更甘! 中力打中就分開兩隻波, 再留 set 波或入波機會, 大力打中就要睇你今朝有冇拜神啦! 但係呢0的就真係紙上談兵, 所以都唔好咁深入討論啦...

Edited by - lksnooker on 10.09.2005 23:10:09
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Dickson
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Posted - 10.09.2005 :  23:27:17  Show Profile  Visit %s1%'s HomepageDickson  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageDickson Send Dickson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
但係你絕對唔可以自己擺到touching ball,
因為一掂到隻color ball 已經可以foul 你喇!
只係可以擺到好接近好接近.......

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Kevi
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Posted - 10.09.2005 :  23:46:22  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageKevi  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressKevi Send Kevi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks u guys teach me the rule, its very clear.
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No1win
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Posted - 11.09.2005 :  02:41:38  Show Profile Send No1win a Private Message  Reply with Quote
答有得飛o個幾個真係要罰抄球例十次
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JP
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Posted - 11.09.2005 :  09:22:40  Show Profile  Visit %s1%'s HomepageJP Send JP a Private Message  Reply with Quote
睇o黎要放埋呢個 case 入 "球例補習班" 俾好似我呢 d....先得!

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B.Hall
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Posted - 11.09.2005 :  14:21:59  Show Profile Send B.Hall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lksnooker
就如之前講過, 都會好睇0個時分數0既情況, 但如果真係有 freeball, "我" 就一定唔會想破壞下次 "會再有 freeball" 0既機會, 但假如我真係想破壞一個咁好0既局面, "我" 絶對會考慮先入啡波, 再 set 黃波囉! 我唔知你0地呢???



I will not do that. You pot the brown but only got 2 points. If you lose the brown, you will be get in a big trouble!!

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lksnooker
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Posted - 11.09.2005 :  20:52:48  Show Profile  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagelksnooker Send lksnooker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by No1win

答有得飛o個幾個真係要罰抄球例十次



hehe... 你咁講你有冇答錯先???

不過我都冇估到會有咁多人估 『有 freeball』, 更估唔到開完估, 再解釋完都仲會仍然有人話 『有 freeball』, 但係至少我0地呢度每一個都唔會再答錯, 更唔會比當晚0的人咁無知... 哈哈~~~


B.Hall: Well, it really depends on the situation, I can't imagine someone missing the brown to the middle, but if it can change a black ball game to a pink ball game etc. then I'd say the black ball under pressure is harder than both the brown or the pink, it really depends how much difference the 2 points can make, and 2 points can make a lot of difference sometimes, and the game is about risk management and each have their own views, but of course there's no need for further debates... ;)
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B.Hall
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Posted - 11.09.2005 :  22:46:05  Show Profile Send B.Hall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
打比賽射失「十二碼」真係好常見喎!

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lksnooker
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Posted - 12.09.2005 :  18:10:00  Show Profile  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagelksnooker Send lksnooker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
所以情願 miss 啡波好過 miss 黑波囉~ 哈哈~ 都係要睇局面同自己0既感覺0既~~~
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KennyC
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Posted - 12.09.2005 :  23:56:46  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressKennyC Send KennyC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
我都贊成無free ball。正如頭先幾位所講,将白波放響黃波下邊最貼近0既位置,但0系吾Touching,柑樣你就要打黃波0既最薄邊啦,柑當呢個情況你企響台0既左邊打,白波就中黃波右邊0既最薄邊;而當你企響台0既右邊打,白波就中黃波0既最左邊。柑即是可以打到目標球0既最薄兩邊啦。所以既然理論上可以柑擺,而柑擺就應該柑處理,所以我覺得,呢個Case應該0系無得Free ball 0既

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Edited by - KennyC on 12.09.2005 23:58:12
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