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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 02:26:28
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 02:37:41
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Wah....it seems you are also ªZªL°ª¤â..... I am just a beginner.....also want to know the answers of your questions.....want to learn more from you guys..
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 07:59:37
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 08:53:12
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OMike seems to be an experience player WOR......Good points.
I recall Macro Fu said he could plan for at least 5-7 balls ahead when he plays for champions. Correct me if I am wrong.
Of course....I am NOT even an experience snooker player LA.....just want share my views here.
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 09:45:19
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quote: Originally posted by JK47
OMike seems to be an experience player WOR......Good points. I recall Macro Fu said he could plan for at least 5-7 balls ahead when he plays for champions. Correct me if I am wrong. Of course....I am NOT even an experience snooker player LA.....just want share my views here.
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 09:58:23
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I certainly agree with you LA because I can only play at most 2-3 colour when I am lucky. No plan at all....just play as much as I can. I mean those players like Marco Fu that they may need to plan so many balls ahead as they can score MA...
Two minor comments and questions: 1. I thought all VERY GOOD players...they will try to avoid any balls while they are shooting MA...that's why they can keep their initial plan for potting LAW. [I cannot do that due to my poor skills - just aharing information here] 2. what is check ¦è ah? how to play check ¦è ah?
My first time to play snooker was about 16 yr ago. I stopped playing for many years due to poor skill. I recently picked up snooker and not eager to improve my skills.
Nice to chatting with you ah and thanks for your sharing ah.
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quote: Originally posted by JK47
OMike seems to be an experience player WOR......Good points. I recall Macro Fu said he could plan for at least 5-7 balls ahead when he plays for champions. Correct me if I am wrong. Of course....I am NOT even an experience snooker player LA.....just want share my views here.
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 10:49:24
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quote: Originally posted by JK47 2. what is check ¦è ah? how to play check ¦è ah?
"check"¦è§Y¬O°ªQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k ¤Î §CQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k
quote: Originally posted by JK47 I recently picked up snooker and not eager to improve my skills. Nice to chatting with you ah and thanks for your sharing ah.
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 11:02:03
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quote: "check"¦è§Y¬O°ªQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k ¤Î §CQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k
check side and running side is opposite, both aiming the left/right side of cue ball......
check against running: ¤Ï¦V, ´îºC running: ¶¶¦V, ¥[§Ö
i am not using good, just share.
by the way, what marco has said is only to plan the whole frame, the sequence, and only when the balls are open and breakable......for every single shot, it is considered one by one
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 11:06:40
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Oh I see. ...Top spin with ¦è or back spin with ¦è...... I usually don't do that as it affects the accuracy.
Maybe that's why the most I get is 20 LA....haha.
It was a typo mistake. It should be "am eager to improve".
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 11:10:14
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quote: Originally posted by paulo check side and running side is opposite, both aiming the left/right side of cue ball...... check against running: ¤Ï¦V, ´îºC running: ¶¶¦V, ¥[§Ö by the way, what marco has said is only to plan the whole frame, the sequence, and only when the balls are open and breakable......for every single shot, it is considered one by one
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 11:13:01
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top spin and back spin has nothing to do with check and running side...
just, snooker players will combine to use them if suitable only.
[quote]Originally posted by JK47
Oh I see. ...Top spin with ¦è or back spin with ¦è...... I usually don't do that as it affects the accuracy.
Maybe that's why the most I get is 20 LA....haha.
It was a typo mistake. It should be "am eager to improve".
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OMike
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 11:13:45
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quote: Originally posted by JK47
Oh I see. ...Top spin with ¦è or back spin with ¦è...... I usually don't do that as it affects the accuracy. Maybe that's why the most I get is 20 LA....haha.
in my opinion, if you are able to handle HIGH Q, MIDDLE Q and LOW Q, you can control your cue ball for 80% of all situation, don't push your self too hard to learn all these kind of side before you can get yourself stable in accuracy first.
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 11:15:11
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quote: Originally posted by OMike
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omike, everyone knows you apply them well, and you are a better player than me (3:0)......ø¦nª±§Ú°Õ.......hehe
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 11:36:38
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quote: Originally posted by paulo omike, everyone knows you apply them well, and you are a better player than me (3:0)......ø¦nª±§Ú°Õ.......hehe
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 11:38:38
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quote: Originally posted by OMike
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 16:32:17
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 17:08:49
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Agreed.....^¶¯©Ò¨£²¤¦P...haha
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in my opinion, if you are able to handle HIGH Q, MIDDLE Q and LOW Q, you can control your cue ball for 80% of all situation, don't push your self too hard to learn all these kind of side before you can get yourself stable in accuracy first.
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 17:54:58
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quote: Originally posted by JK47
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Posted - 16.08.2006 : 18:43:13
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Posted - 17.08.2006 : 00:20:33
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¼M!!! ì¨ÓOmike¬O¦èªi°ª....°ª¤â.... n揾§A«ü±Ð¤U¦Ü±o.....«l§r
quote: Originally posted by paulo
quote: Originally posted by OMike
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Posted - 17.08.2006 : 00:24:14
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