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cow
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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  02:26:28  Show Profile Send cow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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JK47
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Brazil



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  02:37:41  Show Profile Send JK47 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wah....it seems you are also ªZªL°ª¤â.....
I am just a beginner.....also want to know the answers of your questions.....want to learn more from you guys..

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Originally posted by cow

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OMike
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Hong Kong



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  07:59:37  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageOMike Send OMike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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JK47
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Brazil



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  08:53:12  Show Profile Send JK47 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OMike seems to be an experience player WOR......Good points.

I recall Macro Fu said he could plan for at least 5-7 balls ahead when he plays for champions. Correct me if I am wrong.

Of course....I am NOT even an experience snooker player LA.....just want share my views here.

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OMike
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Hong Kong



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  09:45:19  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageOMike Send OMike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JK47

OMike seems to be an experience player WOR......Good points.
I recall Macro Fu said he could plan for at least 5-7 balls ahead when he plays for champions. Correct me if I am wrong.
Of course....I am NOT even an experience snooker player LA.....just want share my views here.



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JK47
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Brazil



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  09:58:23  Show Profile Send JK47 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I certainly agree with you LA because I can only play at most 2-3 colour when I am lucky. No plan at all....just play as much as I can. I mean those players like Marco Fu that they may need to plan so many balls ahead as they can score MA...

Two minor comments and questions:
1. I thought all VERY GOOD players...they will try to avoid any balls while they are shooting MA...that's why they can keep their initial plan for potting LAW. [I cannot do that due to my poor skills - just aharing information here]
2. what is check ¦è ah? how to play check ¦è ah?

My first time to play snooker was about 16 yr ago. I stopped playing for many years due to poor skill. I recently picked up snooker and not eager to improve my skills.

Nice to chatting with you ah and thanks for your sharing ah.


quote:
Originally posted by OMike

quote:
Originally posted by JK47

OMike seems to be an experience player WOR......Good points.
I recall Macro Fu said he could plan for at least 5-7 balls ahead when he plays for champions. Correct me if I am wrong.
Of course....I am NOT even an experience snooker player LA.....just want share my views here.



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OMike
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Hong Kong



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  10:49:24  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageOMike Send OMike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JK47
2. what is check ¦è ah? how to play check ¦è ah?



"check"¦è§Y¬O°ªQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k ¤Î §CQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k

quote:
Originally posted by JK47
I recently picked up snooker and not eager to improve my skills.
Nice to chatting with you ah and thanks for your sharing ah.



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paulo
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Portugal



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  11:02:03  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ Messagepaulo  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresspaulo  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagepaulo Send paulo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
"check"¦è§Y¬O°ªQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k ¤Î §CQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k


check side and running side is opposite, both aiming the left/right side of cue ball......

check against running: ¤Ï¦V, ´îºC
running: ¶¶¦V, ¥[§Ö

i am not using good, just share.

by the way, what marco has said is only to plan the whole frame, the sequence, and only when the balls are open and breakable......for every single shot, it is considered one by one

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JK47
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Brazil



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  11:06:40  Show Profile Send JK47 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh I see. ...Top spin with ¦è or back spin with ¦è......
I usually don't do that as it affects the accuracy.

Maybe that's why the most I get is 20 LA....haha.

It was a typo mistake. It should be "am eager to improve".


quote:

"check"¦è§Y¬O°ªQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k ¤Î §CQ°¾¥ª/°¾¥k

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OMike
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Hong Kong



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  11:10:14  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageOMike Send OMike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paulo
check side and running side is opposite, both aiming the left/right side of cue ball......
check against running: ¤Ï¦V, ´îºC
running: ¶¶¦V, ¥[§Ö
by the way, what marco has said is only to plan the whole frame, the sequence, and only when the balls are open and breakable......for every single shot, it is considered one by one



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paulo
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Portugal



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  11:13:01  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ Messagepaulo  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresspaulo  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagepaulo Send paulo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
top spin and back spin has nothing to do with check and running side...

just, snooker players will combine to use them if suitable only.

[quote]Originally posted by JK47

Oh I see. ...Top spin with ¦è or back spin with ¦è......
I usually don't do that as it affects the accuracy.

Maybe that's why the most I get is 20 LA....haha.

It was a typo mistake. It should be "am eager to improve".


[quote]

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OMike
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Hong Kong



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  11:13:45  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageOMike Send OMike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JK47

Oh I see. ...Top spin with ¦è or back spin with ¦è......
I usually don't do that as it affects the accuracy.
Maybe that's why the most I get is 20 LA....haha.



in my opinion, if you are able to handle HIGH Q, MIDDLE Q and LOW Q, you can control your cue ball for 80% of all situation, don't push your self too hard to learn all these kind of side before you can get yourself stable in accuracy first.


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paulo
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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  11:15:11  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ Messagepaulo  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresspaulo  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagepaulo Send paulo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OMike

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omike, everyone knows you apply them well, and you are a better player than me (3:0)......­ø¦nª±§Ú°Õ.......hehe

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OMike
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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  11:36:38  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageOMike Send OMike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paulo
omike, everyone knows you apply them well, and you are a better player than me (3:0)......­ø¦nª±§Ú°Õ.......hehe



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  11:38:38  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ Messagepaulo  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresspaulo  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagepaulo Send paulo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OMike


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JK47
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Brazil



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  16:32:17  Show Profile Send JK47 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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quote:
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JK47
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Brazil



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  17:08:49  Show Profile Send JK47 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreed.....­^¶¯©Ò¨£²¤¦P...haha

quote:

in my opinion, if you are able to handle HIGH Q, MIDDLE Q and LOW Q, you can control your cue ball for 80% of all situation, don't push your self too hard to learn all these kind of side before you can get yourself stable in accuracy first.



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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  17:54:58  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ Messagepaulo  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresspaulo  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagepaulo Send paulo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JK47

¼M!...§rPaulo¥Í..½Ð°Ý³Ìªñ½mD¤°»ò¤Wµ¥ªZ¥\§r.
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Posted - 16.08.2006 :  18:43:13  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ Messageyau1201  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressyau1201 Send yau1201 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Brazil



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Posted - 17.08.2006 :  00:20:33  Show Profile Send JK47 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
¼M!!! ­ì¨ÓOmike¬O¦èªi°ª....°ª¤â....
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by OMike

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Posted - 17.08.2006 :  00:24:14  Show Profile Send JK47 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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