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Ken Sir
少校級會員

Hong Kong

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Posted - 18.05.2006 :  21:48:17  Show Profile Send Ken Sir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by B.Hall

Ken Sir,你講呢個例子我無親眼見過,但就聽阿關永講過。
佢話真係有個球證叫foul & miss,跟住個對手又傻到叫佢擺番原位再打過,之後個犯規球員就再細細力黐隻白波埋啡波後面,成功做到snooker,個對手先至如夢初醒!

B仔老豆




我都有聽過,真係阿蒙遇著阿懵!

所以做球証真係唔可以亂嗌,雖然係球手自已選擇,但球証唔多唔少都有些誤導責任,因為好多水準唔高的球手一聽到"foul & miss"就慌死蝕底咁叫球証擺番原位!
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lksnooker
初青會員

Australia

Posts 335

Posted - 18.05.2006 :  23:35:52  Show Profile  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagelksnooker Send lksnooker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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反而我覺得你把14B譯成:(除非球証認為球手有意犯規, 就不論之前或之後需唔需要 snooker, 都可以 call foul & miss) 係有錯誤。

請留意(or as a result of, the stroke played and the referee is satisfied that the miss was not intentional.) 係話如果球証滿意這 Q 打失並非蓄意就不是foul & miss。


sec 14 (b) 係一整句, 個重點就係 "unless either player needed snooker before, or as a result of, the stroke played" 意思係 "foul & miss" 除非 打之前或之後需要 snooker, 但係 再 要乎合一個要求, 而呢個要求就係 (and the referee is satisfied that the miss was not intentional.) : "球証滿意這 Q 打失並非蓄意"... sec 14(b) 個意圖就係想完全解釋到 "needed snooker, before 或 after the stroke" 同 "foul & miss" 嘅特殊相對嘅關係, 而唔係簡單談論球証自己滿意定唔滿意蓄意定唔蓄意...

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這就解答左你的疑問,球証係要睇實際情況去裁決,佢一定要好熟悉桌球打法同埋現場經驗,唔係求其�M個大學生唸熟本例就可以落場做球証。


作為一個好有經驗嘅球証我覺得你忽略咗冇解釋清楚 sec 14(b) 嘅真正涵意...


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再俾多個例子:如果有球手打完紅要打色波,佢去揀打隻白波想輕輕(痴)埋啡波度做snooker 又唔夠力,依你講又要叫 foul & miss 啦係嗎?但你有無見過球証咁叫?如果真係叫會唔會俾人覺得佢多餘同埋唔識波?


你俾呢個例子, 一隻咁嘅波, 唔通佢 "盡力" 會打唔中?? 點解唔係 miss?? 咁如果面前有一大 pack 好近嘅紅波, 個球手想打 fine cut, 打唔中, 係咪又唔 call miss? 因為俾對手打多 Q 可能佢今次會打中又 SET 返球好靚嘅 SAFETY, CALL MISS 會唔會俾人覺得 "多餘" 同埋 "唔識波"??? 所以都唔係 miss?

無錯, 可能叫 miss 會誤導一啲你所講嘅 "水準唔高" 嘅球手, 但係 選擇權都應該係球手度, *** 唔通打入隻紅, 袋口有隻 黑, 但係 touching 隻 粉紅, 咁你就唔好叫 touching ball 怕會 "誤導" 個 "低水準" 嘅球手唔敢打球袋口隻 黑?

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