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stun
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Posted - 18.01.2006 :  20:21:06  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressstun Send stun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
大家對用rest有乜心得? 分享一下?






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Edited by - stun on 18.01.2006 20:24:08

91916800
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Posted - 19.01.2006 :  13:48:14  Show Profile Send 91916800 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
摯手嘅手胶部位要平行,出CUE不要太急,最好用REST瞄準咗再放枝CUE上去就會好好多.
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stun
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Posted - 19.01.2006 :  14:41:34  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressstun Send stun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 91916800

摯手嘅手胶部位要平行,出CUE不要太急,最好用REST瞄準咗再放枝CUE上去就會好好多.



用REST瞄準咗先? Sorry, 唔係好明白.

我多數cue同rest一齊推向the shot.

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kml4379
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Posted - 19.01.2006 :  15:35:27  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ Messagekml4379  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresskml4379  Send %s1% a Yahoo! Messagekml4379 Send kml4379 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
step 1: 放rest(其實應該放到差唔多o既位置)同埋Q
step 2: 開始喵(可能需要少少移位做adjust)
step 3: 開始拉Q, keep 每一次拉前拉後都直
step 4: 出Q


p.s 我用rest 都係差o個一類,希望有人教o下我啦
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B.Hall
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Posted - 19.01.2006 :  20:23:17  Show Profile Send B.Hall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
使用rest時,正統的grip及stance都用唔著。
拇指放在cue尾下面,兩隻手指放在上面,就像持筆一般。
平常用作枕手的那隻手,如今有另一項任務,就是要將rest拋錨一般緊釘在檯上。
除非情況真的不許可,否則絕不建議將rest尾凌空地拿著,將rest緊放檯上對擊球穩定性絕對有好的影響。
出cue時,將前臂及手腕推出去,但動作要做得暢順,並將上身的郁動減到最小。
除非檯面情況不許可,否則盡量將rest頭擺放於離白波6至8吋的位置,因為這個距離亦係多數人平常使用枕手的距離。
Rest有較高及較矮的兩個擺法;除非要打出11點至1點鐘位置的高cue,否則應避免使用較高的一面。 若非打高cue而使用較高的一面,出cue時很易令cue頭由上至下,而非水平地擊中白波,往往做成失誤甚至犯規。

(我當然唔夠膽咁長篇大論去教人用rest喇,只係將亨特利書本上所講o既,執少少出o黎,生硬地翻譯o者!)

B仔老豆
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stun
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Posted - 19.01.2006 :  21:24:27  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressstun Send stun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by B.Hall

使用rest時,正統的grip及stance都用唔著。
拇指放在cue尾下面,兩隻手指放在上面,就像持筆一般。
平常用作枕手的那隻手,如今有另一項任務,就是要將rest拋錨一般緊釘在檯上。
除非情況真的不許可,否則絕不建議將rest尾凌空地拿著,將rest緊放檯上對擊球穩定性絕對有好的影響。
出cue時,將前臂及手腕推出去,但動作要做得暢順,並將上身的郁動減到最小。
除非檯面情況不許可,否則盡量將rest頭擺放於離白波6至8吋的位置,因為這個距離亦係多數人平常使用枕手的距離。
Rest有較高及較矮的兩個擺法;除非要打出11點至1點鐘位置的高cue,否則應避免使用較高的一面。 若非打高cue而使用較高的一面,出cue時很易令cue頭由上至下,而非水平地擊中白波,往往做成失誤甚至犯規。

(我當然唔夠膽咁長篇大論去教人用rest喇,只係將亨特利書本上所講o既,執少少出o黎,生硬地翻譯o者!)

B仔老豆



咁用rest正確的stance應該係点? 書本上好少提及.
有D coaching book 話 Cue 同 Rest 應放在同一直線. 但我覺得rest 放在旁邊會比較自然. 瞄準時tip放近the spot you intend to hit on the cue ball, 手肘成接近90度. 把rest尾緊按在枱(容許情況下); 同不要太大follow through 絕對有助穩定性.
有高手曾經同我講話用rest同玩飛標理論好相似, 但我係唔識......有冇人識?

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B.Hall
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Posted - 19.01.2006 :  22:06:47  Show Profile Send B.Hall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
有關個stance,我驚譯錯,唯有照抄:

The stance, like the grip, bears very little resemblance to what adopted under normal circumstances. When it is possible to use the orthodox bridge, the cue-arm and cue go through the white in a direct line. With the rest, the elbow swings sideways to the cue, even though the cue itself is pushed through straight.
In order to do this, your stance has to be modified so that you are virtually side-on. It is a help to straight cueing if the elbow of the cue-arm is dipped marginally to allow the arm to be horizontal to the table. The cue is best held just below eye level so that the cue, and sometimes the butt of the rest, can assist alignment.

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stun
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Posted - 20.01.2006 :  20:36:43  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressstun Send stun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by B.Hall

有關個stance,我驚譯錯,唯有照抄:

The stance, like the grip, bears very little resemblance to what adopted under normal circumstances. When it is possible to use the orthodox bridge, the cue-arm and cue go through the white in a direct line. With the rest, the elbow swings sideways to the cue, even though the cue itself is pushed through straight.
In order to do this, your stance has to be modified so that you are virtually side-on. It is a help to straight cueing if the elbow of the cue-arm is dipped marginally to allow the arm to be horizontal to the table. The cue is best held just below eye level so that the cue, and sometimes the butt of the rest, can assist alignment.

B仔老豆



Thanks for Sharing.

Fortunately I will be meeting Mr. Mike Russell in the near future. I will ask him about how to play better with the rest and post his advise here later.



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scorpio
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Posted - 20.01.2006 :  21:03:07  Show Profile  Visit %s1%'s Homepagescorpio Send scorpio a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by B.Hall

使用rest時,正統的grip及stance都用唔著。
拇指放在cue尾下面,兩隻手指放在上面,就像持筆一般。
平常用作枕手的那隻手,如今有另一項任務,就是要將rest拋錨一般緊釘在檯上。
除非情況真的不許可,否則絕不建議將rest尾凌空地拿著,將rest緊放檯上對擊球穩定性絕對有好的影響。
出cue時,將前臂及手腕推出去,但動作要做得暢順,並將上身的郁動減到最小。
除非檯面情況不許可,否則盡量將rest頭擺放於離白波6至8吋的位置,因為這個距離亦係多數人平常使用枕手的距離。
Rest有較高及較矮的兩個擺法;除非要打出11點至1點鐘位置的高cue,否則應避免使用較高的一面。 若非打高cue而使用較高的一面,出cue時很易令cue頭由上至下,而非水平地擊中白波,往往做成失誤甚至犯規。

(我當然唔夠膽咁長篇大論去教人用rest喇,只係將亨特利書本上所講o既,執少少出o黎,生硬地翻譯o者!)

B仔老豆



請問你係咪睇 stephen Hendry 個本 Snooker Masterclass ???
本書好唔好...多唔多技術上既教材 ???


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B.Hall
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Posted - 20.01.2006 :  22:38:22  Show Profile Send B.Hall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
無錯,就係Stephen Hendry本snooker masterclass!
如果係初學者,呢本書都幾多入門o野教。
如果已經有一定技術,我覺得Jimmy White本snooker masterclass比較適合。
兩本書都可以在公共圖書館借到!

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phidias
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Posted - 24.01.2006 :  08:01:33  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ Messagephidias  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addressphidias Send phidias a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by B.Hall

無錯,就係Stephen Hendry本snooker masterclass!
如果係初學者,呢本書都幾多入門o野教。
如果已經有一定技術,我覺得Jimmy White本snooker masterclass比較適合。
兩本書都可以在公共圖書館借到!

B仔老豆

有無中文版咖??= ="
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B.Hall
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Posted - 24.01.2006 :  10:26:20  Show Profile Send B.Hall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
暫時未有出版商認為值得去翻譯呢兩本書喎,可能覺得市場太細,驚收唔番個成本。

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Posted - 24.01.2006 :  11:07:11  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger address波樓食神 Send 波樓食神 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
B. Hall 你得閒就o係度答o下技術問題答得幾年本書就出得街啦。
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B.Hall
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Posted - 24.01.2006 :  15:36:57  Show Profile Send B.Hall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
D高人無我咁多口水o者!

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