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stevefai
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Posted - 26.12.2006 :  04:33:43  Show Profile  Visit %s1%'s Homepagestevefai Send stevefai a Private Message  Reply with Quote
如果他無心機、身體非常不適、心中有事、無信心再打落去早d認輸,有咩問題?
既然他自已都放棄左啦!使乜大家話他又唔尊重對手那些無謂的說話呢?
你地唔比他好尊重享特,但剛好比條女飛左,或家人死左,無心再打落去唔架?
球星只係人地給他的,可能對他來說比賽只是他為了排名及錢而已!可能他唔想全世界既人都在看?

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stevefai
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Posted - 26.12.2006 :  04:40:33  Show Profile  Visit %s1%'s Homepagestevefai Send stevefai a Private Message  Reply with Quote
其實唔比人認輸架?人地早d認輸又話人無品唔尊重觀眾?有無為o's著想過,要他繼續打落去可能是觀眾不尊重他的決定?
唔比人認輸架?

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cheung69
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Posted - 27.12.2006 :  09:15:18  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresscheung69 Send cheung69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
比如足球半場輸6蛋,跟住同對手打個招呼下半場就唔打喇!算唔算有問題???
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cheung69
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Posted - 27.12.2006 :  09:38:44  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresscheung69 Send cheung69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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算啦...可能有d人唔知握手投降點解啦....
根本就係小事..
俾人講到影響深遠咁...諗極都唔明...

講番阿陳生..佢就真係應該去握手果個啦...
影衰晒..

Originally posted by BrianPoon




我都覺得係~~跟本就係小事一宗~~
你可以當佢係桌球界上既一見趣事,但談唔上要批評人囉~~
你真係認為走去握手就完咁容易架~~
投降係要勇氣架,
如果唔投降打落去,一陣打得唔好又話人唔認真,又話唔尊重個對手~~
咁你地姐係想點ar?打又唔尊重,投降又唔尊重~~
咁不如你去打啦~~

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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely _| ̄|○ !!!
orz !!!!

朕乃一度波王!!!!!!

Originally posted by wizarddicky



我以前有個波友自己有狀態個日就打到你七個一皮,自己無狀態個日你打緊佢忽然叫cut鐘!因此半年以上無再同佢打波!唉!我原來錯左!佢原來係尊重我!
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cheung69
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Posted - 27.12.2006 :  09:41:36  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresscheung69 Send cheung69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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如果他無心機、身體非常不適、心中有事、無信心再打落去早d認輸,有咩問題?
既然他自已都放棄左啦!使乜大家話他又唔尊重對手那些無謂的說話呢?
你地唔比他好尊重享特,但剛好比條女飛左,或家人死左,無心再打落去唔架?
球星只係人地給他的,可能對他來說比賽只是他為了排名及錢而已!可能他唔想全世界既人都在看?



Originally posted by stevefai


咁打得唔好實有d原因既!!!
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cue in hand
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Posted - 27.12.2006 :  15:11:13  Show Profile Send cue in hand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
仲以為呢個topic已經end咗添!
唉!!!!
算吧啦,呢個世界總有人分不清是非黑白!!!!
希望呢個topic end咗去算啦,睇到一部份人既post,我為道理二字心痛.

冷靜一擊,創造奇蹟~!~!
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OMike
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Posted - 27.12.2006 :  22:35:34  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageOMike Send OMike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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我以前有個波友自己有狀態個日就打到你七個一皮,自己無狀態個日你打緊佢忽然叫cut鐘!因此半年以上無再同佢打波!唉!我原來錯左!佢原來係尊重我!

Originally posted by cheung69



你舉呢個例同足球果個例真係一針見血

我亦係度恭喜果d未試過遇到果d自己有態就得, 人地有態就mark鐘! 事不關己, 己不勞心, 風涼話, 大家都識講, 講無用既, 係要你遇過呢d人啦, 你米睇下你到時你又有冇咁理性, "明白""原諒""理解"呢d人呀


舊的事物在回憶中,永遠是最好的!韋德〉亨特利〉奧蘇利雲
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457
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Hong Kong



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Posted - 28.12.2006 :  16:43:31  Show Profile Send 457 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The shocking level can be compared with Zidane's headbutt!
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lovermjj
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Posted - 28.12.2006 :  18:34:58  Show Profile Send lovermjj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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比如足球半場輸6蛋,跟住同對手打個招呼下半場就唔打喇!算唔算有問題???

Originally posted by cheung69



舉哩個例會唔會有d唔恰當...?
桌球中途棄權係合符球例的,而足球中途棄權我就唔係好清楚了~
P.S. 哩個回覆只係單單針對哩個[桌球與足球]既舉例,而唔係要拗奧蘇O岩定唔O岩~
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cheung69
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Posted - 28.12.2006 :  19:24:51  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresscheung69 Send cheung69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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比如足球半場輸6蛋,跟住同對手打個招呼下半場就唔打喇!算唔算有問題???

Originally posted by cheung69



舉哩個例會唔會有d唔恰當...?
桌球中途棄權係合符球例的,而足球中途棄權我就唔係好清楚了~
P.S. 哩個回覆只係單單針對哩個[桌球與足球]既舉例,而唔係要拗奧蘇O岩定唔O岩~

最初發表人 lovermjj


我都唔知是否符合球例,只係想表達唔認同咁既做法!
記得早幾年 阿仙奴 有場波中途對手因為有球員受傷將個波踢左出界先,個個都以為 阿仙奴球員 會比番個波對手(球例無規定要咁做),點知並無咁做!將波交比隊友單刀入埋!!!佢無犯規但係有做錯!!!

Edited by - cheung69 on 28.12.2006 19:56:25
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lovermjj
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Posted - 28.12.2006 :  20:03:53  Show Profile Send lovermjj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
站係大眾道德觀念上你既講法係O岩既~

Edited by - lovermjj on 28.12.2006 20:04:33
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ddrIII
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Posted - 29.12.2006 :  00:46:14  Show Profile  Visit %s1%'s HomepageddrIII Send ddrIII a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
quote:
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比如足球半場輸6蛋,跟住同對手打個招呼下半場就唔打喇!算唔算有問題???

Originally posted by cheung69



舉哩個例會唔會有d唔恰當...?
桌球中途棄權係合符球例的,而足球中途棄權我就唔係好清楚了~
P.S. 哩個回覆只係單單針對哩個[桌球與足球]既舉例,而唔係要拗奧蘇O岩定唔O岩~

最初發表人 lovermjj


我都唔知是否符合球例,只係想表達唔認同咁既做法!
記得早幾年 阿仙奴 有場波中途對手因為有球員受傷將個波踢左出界先,個個都以為 阿仙奴球員 會比番個波對手(球例無規定要咁做),點知並無咁做!將波交比隊友單刀入埋!!!佢無犯規但係有做錯!!!

Originally posted by cheung69



呢場係幾年前足總盃16強對錫菲聯,

贏左之後雲格主動提出重賽, 重賽之後都係兵工廠贏返

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B.Hall
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Posted - 29.12.2006 :  07:49:45  Show Profile Send B.Hall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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我以前有個波友自己有狀態個日就打到你七個一皮,自己無狀態個日你打緊佢忽然叫cut鐘!因此半年以上無再同佢打波!唉!我原來錯左!佢原來係尊重我!

Originally posted by cheung69



我亦係度恭喜果d未試過遇到果d自己有態就得, 人地有態就mark鐘! 事不關己, 己不勞心, 風涼話, 大家都識講, 講無用既, 係要你遇過呢d人啦, 你米睇下你到時你又有冇咁理性, "明白""原諒""理解"呢d人呀
最初發表人 OMike



如果同朋友玩波,佢咁對我,我當然唔高興喇!
如果打比賽遇到呢種人,我又未必好唔開心喎!
始終玩波咁做佢就係慳波鐘,職業賽咁做就係放棄晉級機會、放棄晉一級之獎金、放棄晉一級的派名分數、及俾全世界好多二打六(包括我)批評;所以兩個情況不可一概而論。


B仔老豆
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cheung69
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Posted - 29.12.2006 :  10:05:11  Show Profile  Click to see %s1%'s MSN Messenger addresscheung69 Send cheung69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
quote:
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我以前有個波友自己有狀態個日就打到你七個一皮,自己無狀態個日你打緊佢忽然叫cut鐘!因此半年以上無再同佢打波!唉!我原來錯左!佢原來係尊重我!

Originally posted by cheung69



我亦係度恭喜果d未試過遇到果d自己有態就得, 人地有態就mark鐘! 事不關己, 己不勞心, 風涼話, 大家都識講, 講無用既, 係要你遇過呢d人啦, 你米睇下你到時你又有冇咁理性, "明白""原諒""理解"呢d人呀
最初發表人 OMike



如果同朋友玩波,佢咁對我,我當然唔高興喇!
如果打比賽遇到呢種人,我又未必好唔開心喎!
始終玩波咁做佢就係慳波鐘,職業賽咁做就係放棄晉級機會、放棄晉一級之獎金、放棄晉一級的派名分數、及俾全世界好多二打六(包括我)批評;所以兩個情況不可一概而論。


B仔老豆

最初發表人 B.Hall



你講得無錯,玩還玩,職業還職業.係唔同既環境無咩可比性.同意.












最近狀態大勇!!!
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danwong
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Posted - 02.01.2007 :  13:40:32  Show Profile Send danwong a Private Message  Reply with Quote
首先我必須講明, 我對任何討論者沒有惡意.

跟據球例 (下方) 是沒有 "放棄比賽" (不是指棄權) 的球例. 球例只講出可以棄權一局(不是指比賽), 還要跟據下方的conditions. 不是話今天打唔到球就可以放棄的. 這點大家必須要知道.


視為不君子行為 (c), 足球也好, 桌球也好, 總會要 "照照肺", 但罰唔罰, 就這裡不作討論.

最重要一點, 球例是不能蓋全 100% 未發生的事情, 因此球例亦會不停更新, 如同世界各地的法例一樣, 力求完善. 而未發生既事情, 人們總會有一個 "合理" 既行為/ 操守去處理.

例子: 球例沒有指出不可以用q 尾攻擊對手, 這不代表我們可以咁做.


5. Conceding
(a) A player may only concede when he is the striker. The opponent has the right to accept or refuse the concession, which becomes null and void if the opponent chooses to play on
(b) When aggregate scores apply and a frame is conceded, the value of any balls remaining on the table is added to the score of the other side. In such case, Reds shall count as eight points each and any colour incorrectly.
(c) A player shall not concede a frame in any match unless snookers are required. Any breach of this rule shall be regarded as ungentlemanly conduct by the player concerned.
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OMike
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Posted - 02.01.2007 :  17:27:40  Show Profile  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageOMike Send OMike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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5. Conceding
(a) A player may only concede when he is the striker. The opponent has the right to accept or refuse the concession, which becomes null and void if the opponent chooses to play on
(b) When aggregate scores apply and a frame is conceded, the value of any balls remaining on the table is added to the score of the other side. In such case, Reds shall count as eight points each and any colour incorrectly.
(c) A player shall not concede a frame in any match unless snookers are required. Any breach of this rule shall be regarded as ungentlemanly conduct by the player concerned.

Originally posted by danwong



斷正!

但...跟住仲使唔使探究 shall not 同 should not既分別?
又, ungentlemanly conduct 使唔使死呢??


舊的事物在回憶中,永遠是最好的!韋德〉亨特利〉奧蘇利雲
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Ken Sir
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Posted - 02.01.2007 :  23:40:21  Show Profile Send Ken Sir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
5. Conceding
(a) A player may only concede when he is the striker. The opponent has the right to accept or refuse the concession, which becomes null and void if the opponent chooses to play on
(b) When aggregate scores apply and a frame is conceded, the value of any balls remaining on the table is added to the score of the other side. In such case, Reds shall count as eight points each and any colour incorrectly.
(c) A player shall not concede a frame in any match unless snookers are required. Any breach of this rule shall be regarded as ungentlemanly conduct by the player concerned.

Originally posted by danwong

[/quote]


我唔知 danwong 哥在何處找到以上球例 ?

(b)少了一段:
When aggregate scores apply and a frame is conceded, the value of any balls remaining on the table is added to the score of the other side. In such case, Reds shall count as eight points each and any colour incorrectly off the table shall be counted as if spotted.

而(c)我好像從沒看過 (也許是我孤陋寡聞,請賜教!)
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Dickson
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Posted - 03.01.2007 :  01:26:49  Show Profile  Visit %s1%'s HomepageDickson  Send %s1% an ICQ MessageDickson Send Dickson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ken Sir,

在 Worldsnooker 官方網站,The Rules 入面,
SECTION 4. THE PLAYERS
第 5 點


Dickson
是非有公理 慎言莫冒犯別人
遇上冷風雨 休太認真
自信滿心裡 休理會諷刺與質問
笑罵由人 灑脫地做人
少年人 灑脫地做人
繼續行 灑脫地做人

[般若波羅密多心經]
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danwong
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Posted - 03.01.2007 :  09:56:53  Show Profile Send danwong a Private Message  Reply with Quote
先謝謝Ken sir, 再唔該 Dickson.

如果想看看有關資料, 可到 http://www.worldsnooker.com/about_the_rules.htm

ps: 這就更能證明波例是不停更新. 與時並進.
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Ken Sir
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Posted - 03.01.2007 :  11:01:30  Show Profile Send Ken Sir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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先謝謝Ken sir, 再唔該 Dickson.

如果想看看有關資料, 可到 http://www.worldsnooker.com/about_the_rules.htm

ps: 這就更能證明波例是不停更新. 與時並進.

Originally posted by danwong




唔該哂!

不過我唔明(b)段�繨悀皏炊@截?

據我所知球例是 WPBSA & IBSF 在 1995 年9 月共同撰寫的,如果要作任何修改都要得到雙方同意。

我會得閒校對下仲有邊度唔同再向IBSF查問�繨挶|咁情況!
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