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vic vic
中校級會員
Portugal
Posts 1335 |
 Posted - 18.12.2006 : 12:14:23
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我諗總比d打唔入之後抹波大叫mark鐘既好得多！ |
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cheung69
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 150 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 12:17:41
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quote:但其實企係Ronnie個角度諗諗..
可能佢自己都feel到自己冇態..場波打落去到冇咩意思~~
咁樣做都算羸返d野先走ar~~~
最少話比人知,我輸都輸得有型過人~~
我只少係咁諗...我點都撐Ronnie架><
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!!
Originally posted by wizarddicky
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咁都撐得落!!!???唔尊重別人喎!!! |
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wizarddicky
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 342 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 13:26:52
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quote:quote:但其實企係Ronnie個角度諗諗..
可能佢自己都feel到自己冇態..場波打落去到冇咩意思~~
咁樣做都算羸返d野先走ar~~~
最少話比人知,我輸都輸得有型過人~~
我只少係咁諗...我點都撐Ronnie架><
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!!
Originally posted by wizarddicky
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咁都撐得落!!!???唔尊重別人喎!!!
Originally posted by cheung69
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每件事睇兩面既~~
你話佢唔尊重人又得,話佢想幫自己囉返少少自尊又得~~
其實o個一刻佢諗咩真係冇咩人知,係得佢自己知~~
佢真係好型><撐佢ar~~~
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!! |
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MT
上校級會員
Hong Kong
Posts 3326 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 17:24:21
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quote:quote:quote:但其實企係Ronnie個角度諗諗..
可能佢自己都feel到自己冇態..場波打落去到冇咩意思~~
咁樣做都算羸返d野先走ar~~~
最少話比人知,我輸都輸得有型過人~~
我只少係咁諗...我點都撐Ronnie架><
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!!
Originally posted by wizarddicky
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咁都撐得落!!!???唔尊重別人喎!!!
Originally posted by cheung69
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每件事睇兩面既~~
你話佢唔尊重人又得,話佢想幫自己囉返少少自尊又得~~
其實o個一刻佢諗咩真係冇咩人知,係得佢自己知~~
佢真係好型><撐佢ar~~~
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!!
Originally posted by wizarddicky
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打埋塲波會無左自尊?? 走左去就有小小自尊 ?? 好難理解.
而家唔係去估佢點諗, 而係呢种行為唔啱.
其實用心打落去先至係尊重別人, 尊重自己架!
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MT
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Daniel
初青會員
Posts 336 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 18:02:33
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MT, 我地老喇...
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MT
上校級會員
Hong Kong
Posts 3326 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 18:24:56
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MT, 我地老喇...
Originally posted by Daniel
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我都覺! 
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MT
Happy Snooker |
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mvsosullivan
初青會員
Posts 72 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 19:36:33
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我只係認為,佢真係無尊重到買左飛入去睇的觀眾
各位諗下，假如呢場波係奧蘇同亨特利私片，我話之你打橫打掂，幾時投降都得
但係而家係有買左飛的觀眾睇喎......你就唔可以話投降就投降
佢再係咁打波，搵呀差去睇都得啦
不懲罰，小孩子是不會反省，也不會成長的。從長遠來看，他們一犯錯大人就認真懲罰他們，才是為他們好。
<<女王的教室>> |
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wizarddicky
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 342 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 20:57:53
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quote:我只係認為,佢真係無尊重到買左飛入去睇的觀眾
各位諗下，假如呢場波係奧蘇同亨特利私片，我話之你打橫打掂，幾時投降都得
但係而家係有買左飛的觀眾睇喎......你就唔可以話投降就投降
佢再係咁打波，搵呀差去睇都得啦
不懲罰，小孩子是不會反省，也不會成長的。從長遠來看，他們一犯錯大人就認真懲罰他們，才是為他們好。
<<女王的教室>>
Originally posted by mvsosullivan
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觀眾去捧場都係為自己鐘意既球手打氣~~
咁係好應該尊重自己球手既決定~~
難度有easy short Ronnie唔射走去射hard short又對唔住d觀眾啦lor!?
e家既情況就係一樣,佢選擇唔打,你又話人地唔岩,咁點得架~~
係羸係輸我諗Ronnie佢自負盈虧,冇人可以怪佢架lor~~
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!! |
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BrianPoon
初青會員
Congo, Democratic Republic of
Posts 283 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 21:11:03
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我覺得無問題呀...
打仗都有得投降啦..唔通真係舉高手都要打死我咩..
呢d係佢既權利..就算佢一開波打入第一隻就投降都無問題嫁..
我唔信 snooker rules 無一條條例叫唔俾認輸掛..
佢都有風度啦... 又無話人..只怪自己..
唔係一定打完場波就叫有風度既..
如果再打落去求其打完就算咁咪仲無體育精神...
係有d人諗得太保守者..
只要大家諗清楚d就會明嫁啦...
而家唔係型唔型既問題...
而我覺得佢重好尊重對手...
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wizarddicky
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 342 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 21:22:03
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quote:我覺得無問題呀...
打仗都有得投降啦..唔通真係舉高手都要打死我咩..
呢d係佢既權利..就算佢一開波打入第一隻就投降都無問題嫁..
我唔信 snooker rules 無一條條例叫唔俾認輸掛..
佢都有風度啦... 又無話人..只怪自己..
唔係一定打完場波就叫有風度既..
如果再打落去求其打完就算咁咪仲無體育精神...
係有d人諗得太保守者..
只要大家諗清楚d就會明嫁啦...
而家唔係型唔型既問題...
而我覺得佢重好尊重對手...
Originally posted by BrianPoon
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agree!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!! |
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mvsosullivan
初青會員
Posts 72 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 21:32:05
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輸打贏要.
你點講都好，我地球迷尊重球手係球場入面的任何決定.
問題來了，那麼誰去尊重球迷買飛入場睇波的決定呢?
仲有，我認同 Ronnie 係一位可觀性好高的球手-不過，只限佢上風之時
今次呢個 case，係 Ronnie 局數落後，要追
喂，而家打緊十七局九勝，落後一比四，漫漫長路
就算亨特利當時領先局數都唔夠膽話自己贏硬呀
咁佢點解佢自己有失誤就棄權?
我估當時大部分觀眾都想見到奧蘇追返上黎，同對手合演一場精彩比賽
佢而家剝削左各位觀眾睇好波之權利喎，點講佢投降唔係一個正確的決定
有一個更壞的情況: 當新一代之球手有樣學樣，人人一見勢色唔對，要打下風波果陣就放棄，縮沙投降，咁各位想像桌球之可觀性會變成點呢? 自己諗諗啦
以上為本人之分析,旨在良性討論,不喜勿插.
PS, 桌球好睇同好玩之處，不在於上風波時點樣鞏固優勢，而係在於下風波時點樣追返上黎，每一局都充滿變數，呢下先過癮
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wizarddicky
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 342 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 21:36:21
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quote:輸打贏要.
你點講都好，我地球迷尊重球手係球場入面的任何決定.
問題來了，那麼誰去尊重球迷買飛入場睇波的決定呢?
仲有，我認同 Ronnie 係一位可觀性好高的球手-不過，只限佢上風之時
今次呢個 case，係 Ronnie 局數落後，要追
喂，而家打緊十七局九勝，落後一比四，漫漫長路
就算亨特利當時領先局數都唔夠膽話自己贏硬呀
咁佢點解佢自己有失誤就棄權?
我估當時大部分觀眾都想見到奧蘇追返上黎，同對手合演一場精彩比賽
佢而家剝削左各位觀眾睇好波之權利喎，點講佢投降唔係一個正確的決定
有一個更壞的情況: 當新一代之球手有樣學樣，人人一見勢色唔對，要打下風波果陣就放棄，縮沙投降，咁各位想像桌球之可觀性會變成點呢? 自己諗諗啦
PS, 桌球好睇同好玩之處，不在於上風波時點樣鞏固優勢，而係在於下風波時點樣追返上黎，每一局都充滿變數，呢下先過癮
Originally posted by mvsosullivan
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但係人地打波唔係為左打比人睇架ma...成日話人地打波要掛住埋d觀眾-_-
咁我睇波見凍Ronnie洗唔洗上黎比件3我ar-_-~~
打波梗係一心一意係場波到架啦~~話知你d觀眾幾唔鐘意先得架~~
你係真係睇波既就真心欣賞啦..理得佢有幾多局睇姐~~
唔通打晒17局觀眾唔夠喉打多兩板表演賽咩~~~
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!! |
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mvsosullivan
初青會員
Posts 72 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 21:41:38
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無論如何，是非自有公論，留待賽會定奪以後，大家便知道結果了 |
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snoo147
少校級會員
Posts 976 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 21:42:18
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支持mvsosullivan。
面對歪理，不予致評。 |
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wizarddicky
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 342 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 21:46:48
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quote:支持mvsosullivan。
面對歪理，不予致評。
Originally posted by snoo147
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支持Ronnie O'sullivan....
代Ronnie送大家一首詩:
桃花塢裏桃花庵 桃花庵裏桃花仙 桃花仙人種桃樹 又摘桃花換酒錢
酒醒只在花前坐 酒醉還來花下眠 半醒半醉日復日 花落花開年復年
但願老死花酒間 不願鞠躬車馬前 車塵馬足貴者趣 酒盞花枝貧者緣
若將富貴比貧賤 一在平地一在天 若將貧賤比車馬 他得驅馳我得閑
別人笑我太瘋癲 我笑他人看不穿 不見五陵豪傑墓 無花無酒鋤作田~~
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!! |
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mvsosullivan
初青會員
Posts 72 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 22:15:16
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我諗我呢類圈外人講太多都無意思，不如大家睇下世界冠軍杜特 (Graeme Dott) 點睇啦，佢呢番言論已經代表到大部分人之心聲:
Dott, hearing the commotion on the next table, was similarly puzzled.
He said: "I actually thought there was a fight - I heard someone in the crowd shout out quite aggressively, something like 'get a grip, Ronnie'.
I sincerely hope he's got a good explanation for this
"If Ronnie is medically depressed or has problems I would genuinely feel sorry for him and hope he gets better.
"But if he just can't be bothered and there's nothing wrong with him, I think that is obviously wrong.
"It is very rough on the people who have paid good money to watch him and people who have bet on him to win the tournament. It is them I feel sory for."
有一樣野我先前唔記得講，賽會就今次事件，將會傳召奧蘇本人落口供，相信內容不外乎問下動機，之後佢地落手落腳查下到底有咩問題，好，咁查下查下會唔會有機會係涉嫌打假波呢? 假如係就手尾長啦
所以話，場波完成到係對球手自己都係一個保障，明哲保身，起碼到最後都唔會話有好多人，懷疑場波係咪打假波，所以今次奧蘇...... 
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wizarddicky
初青會員
Hong Kong
Posts 342 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 22:25:40
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quote:我諗我呢類圈外人講太多都無意思，不如大家睇下世界冠軍杜特 (Graeme Dott) 點睇啦，佢呢番言論已經代表到大部分人之心聲:
Dott, hearing the commotion on the next table, was similarly puzzled.
He said: "I actually thought there was a fight - I heard someone in the crowd shout out quite aggressively, something like 'get a grip, Ronnie'.
I sincerely hope he's got a good explanation for this
"If Ronnie is medically depressed or has problems I would genuinely feel sorry for him and hope he gets better.
"But if he just can't be bothered and there's nothing wrong with him, I think that is obviously wrong.
"It is very rough on the people who have paid good money to watch him and people who have bet on him to win the tournament. It is them I feel sory for."
有一樣野我先前唔記得講，賽會就今次事件，將會傳召奧蘇本人落口供，相信內容不外乎問下動機，之後佢地落手落腳查下到底有咩問題，好，咁查下查下會唔會有機會係涉嫌打假波呢? 假如係就手尾長啦
所以話，場波完成到係對球手自己都係一個保障，明哲保身，起碼到最後都唔會話有好多人，懷疑場波係咪打假波，所以今次奧蘇......
Originally posted by mvsosullivan
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車...人地夠有講"If Ronnie is medically depressed or has problems I would genuinely feel sorry for him and hope he gets better"
你唔比Ronnie o個moment真係有問題架~~
家上如果真係打假波,我諗都真係幾假下lor~~
深信有腦既都知假波就唔係咁打既~~
家上就唔好咁在意係"who have paid good money"呢句字眼上囉~~
不過難怪....典型既香港人..係咁上下~~
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!! |
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mvsosullivan
初青會員
Posts 72 |
Posted - 18.12.2006 : 22:58:19
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"who have paid good money"
我係針對呢一句，咁點?
做得職業球手，獎金同出場費點黎?
除左贊助商之外，觀眾支持係好重要
無觀眾入場，就無門票收益
咁你可能話：車，仲有電視轉播喎！
你呢類出名的職業球手，一句唔該，拍下籮柏走人唔打，自然就無人會再睇啦
電視轉播收益都無埋.
贊助商見桌球無人睇，就唔再注資，咁賽會自然要 cut budget，球手收入自然會縮水，的人見到咁樣，就會少左人投身打職業，桌球就會萎縮.
呢個情況，文雅咁講，叫散眾；難聽講句，叫趕客
到時桌球無人睇，就唔好話觀眾唔識欣賞
我而家只係希望，呢個惡性循環唔好出現......
點解艾頓打得慢，就要比人鬧；奧蘇大哥唔打添，仲有人支持叫好呢?
真可笑!
香港人就係咁現實，因為係香港地，錢對人實在太重要，做人就係樣樣都 要錢，衣食住行，咩野都要錢；正因為職業球手都係人，佢地日常生活都要用錢，所以係唔關身份事. 職業球手的生涯，樣樣都係錢，皮費仲唔輕添，咁你話我聽，佢地有邊樣野唔關錢事呀?
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wizarddicky
初青會員
Hong Kong
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Posted - 18.12.2006 : 23:11:33
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quote:"who have paid good money"
我係針對呢一句，咁點?
做得職業球手，獎金同出場費點黎?
除左贊助商之外，觀眾支持係好重要
無觀眾入場，就無門票收益
咁你可能話：車，仲有電視轉播喎！
你呢類出名的職業球手，一句唔該，拍下籮柏走人唔打，自然就無人會再睇啦
電視轉播收益都無埋.
贊助商見桌球無人睇，就唔再注資，咁賽會自然要 cut budget，球手收入自然會縮水，的人見到咁樣，就會少左人投身打職業，桌球就會萎縮.
呢個情況，文雅咁講，叫散眾；難聽講句，叫趕客
到時桌球無人睇，就唔好話觀眾唔識欣賞
我而家只係希望，呢個惡性循環唔好出現......
PS. 點解艾頓打得慢，就要比人鬧；奧蘇大哥唔打添，仲有人支持叫好呢?
真可笑
Originally posted by mvsosullivan
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如果真係要講錢..第一樣既係唔係應該波樓唔應該收錢or收咁貴呢?
要比錢自然就少人有興趣去接觸不,少人去接觸就姐係少個機會去發掘人才啦~
少人才,就姐係少左有質數既人打職業啦,冇質數既桌球賽就姐係冇人睇啦,
咁樣桌球就會萎縮架啦~~
加上你可以數到5個以上既人係好似Ronnie咁既桌球天才出黎,你所講既野就先可以成立~
家陣到現時為止好似都係得Ronnie一個咁做,佢一個做都足以令桌球萎縮!?
咁佢咪姐係唔死得,死左仲有邊個人打桌球ar?
我地貴精不貴多,重質不重量既~~
個個都打到成舊屎咁,日日比你睇你都唔睇啦~~
姐係日日做亞運睇香港隊你都真係冇眼睇ar~~~~
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Lonely I'm Mr Lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn
I'm so lonely ＿|￣|○ !!!
orz !!!!
朕乃一度波王!!!!!! |
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mvsosullivan
初青會員
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Posted - 18.12.2006 : 23:24:05
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我問你一個問題：閣下打波之球路，或者態度，有無受到奧蘇利雲的影響?
假如無，我恭喜你，因為閣下要打出有水準的桌球，指日可待
如果有，咁証實左佢係桌球壇係有一定之影響力
當然，奧蘇對球壇有好影響，亦有壞影響
學到好野固然好，但係亦有一部分打桌球之年輕人，照單全收
而家個問題係，佢一個人會帶到不良影響比新一代的球手
所以你話有無影響?
講多樣野，比我地年長一輩的人，打桌球的風格很大程度上受韋德，戴維斯的影響，似乎我們這一代的情況也不會有什麼轉變了:也是學這群球手的打法了.
所以我唔見得呢樣野係無影響，起碼仲有一群青少年繼續支持奧蘇 |
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Ronnie單野
