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Posted - 11.09.2005 : 00:58:36
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1) ¦ÛµM§l®ð Natural-Aspirated 2) ´õ½ü¼WÀ£ Turbo 3) ¾÷±ñ¼WÀ£ Supercharge
just read other forum and wanna know their different....
would any expert here can tell me pls?
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Posted - 11.09.2005 : 10:10:31
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Posted - 11.09.2005 : 12:25:55
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Posted - 11.09.2005 : 16:07:03
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quote: Originally posted by 168
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thx any way
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Posted - 11.09.2005 : 16:08:23
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quote: Originally posted by Steven
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no idea...., never heard b4...haha
i got limited car knowledge.....: P
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Posted - 11.09.2005 : 20:34:11
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quote: Originally posted by Steven
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Posted - 11.09.2005 : 23:09:36
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quote: Originally posted by lksnooker
quote: Originally posted by Steven
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Yeah., sound supercharge suit me wor..., i dun like "¤ÏÀ³¤Ó¬ðµM", that not comfortable when driving..all my back push by the seat when accelerate.....
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Posted - 12.09.2005 : 18:20:08
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haha... that's the fun of the turbo when the boost comes on and you're sucked back into ur seat... :P (just kidding...) these days the turbo (boost) comes on much earlier (with ball bearing turbos) and with a aftermarket computer, many things can be tuned, and with different setups for eg. electronic boost control, you can have the power delivery as smooth as you like, or tuned at full power (as how it should be... :D)
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Posted - 12.09.2005 : 21:11:33
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Posted - 12.09.2005 : 21:35:21
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quote: Originally posted by B.Hall
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haha, i was quite enjoy the "I¯áøu´ÈIo¬J§Ö·P" for first few months... but after keep complain form gf and few fds....., i thinking is it a good thing cos sometime quite sudden and they dun know...i wanna overtake other car... so they usually : @#$%^$## .
but so strange...my car no any turbo ga wor...., how come..... @.@
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Posted - 12.09.2005 : 21:51:42
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Posted - 12.09.2005 : 22:09:23
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quote: Originally posted by Steven
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of cos no la....., that's why i thinking what's wrong with that....
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Posted - 12.09.2005 : 23:15:19
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Posted - 13.09.2005 : 00:01:07
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quote: Originally posted by Steven
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haha, maybe! but u know.., sometimes u 've seen low b driver in front of u ..., u really want to overtake him/her ga ma....
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Posted - 13.09.2005 : 00:12:08
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esp. annoying taxi......
well, but u can still smoothly accelerate.
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Posted - 13.09.2005 : 00:21:20
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esp. annoying taxi......
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yes....i hate taxi the most ..
the problem is i dunno why my car not that smoothly when accelerate... .
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Posted - 13.09.2005 : 00:29:47
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Buy a «e¤C, then u won't have this feeling anymore. haha
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